Perhaps Torgal should show him there's more joy in sticks rather than stones.

[An idea to keep the kids busy while the adult talk, surely.

And given a location, Torgal is at the door whining again, this time for Jill to hurry up and open it so he can go. He doesn't understand what an address is, but he know will lead him the right way. Still, though, he'll have to wait until she politely ends the conversations.]

I will meet you there in an hour or so, if that works for you.